logiclife
05-31 04:54 PM
I am confused. it is very contradicting.
That's why there is a saying that you should never watch sausages and laws being made.
The Cantwell amendment and Lieberman amendment will fail to pass the vote. It doesnt matter whether its ordered to lie on table or whether its ordered to take a nap on the table or have some lemonade on the table. And it doesnt matter what any of those "Motion to... " means.
Both of those amendments, if debated, will fail. It will take 10 seconds for Bernie Sanders, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin to scream on top of their lungs and kill it. And the reason is very simple. There is a massive H1B exemption ON TOP OF 180,000 QUOTA. People who have been so successful this year so far in restricting H1 and employment based GCs are not going to miss that nice little H1 exemption at the bottom of both these amendments. So stop scratching your heads over what the "lying on table" means, because whatever is lying on table is unpassable if it somehow awakes from the table and starts dancing in the well of the senate floor.
That's why there is a saying that you should never watch sausages and laws being made.
The Cantwell amendment and Lieberman amendment will fail to pass the vote. It doesnt matter whether its ordered to lie on table or whether its ordered to take a nap on the table or have some lemonade on the table. And it doesnt matter what any of those "Motion to... " means.
Both of those amendments, if debated, will fail. It will take 10 seconds for Bernie Sanders, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin to scream on top of their lungs and kill it. And the reason is very simple. There is a massive H1B exemption ON TOP OF 180,000 QUOTA. People who have been so successful this year so far in restricting H1 and employment based GCs are not going to miss that nice little H1 exemption at the bottom of both these amendments. So stop scratching your heads over what the "lying on table" means, because whatever is lying on table is unpassable if it somehow awakes from the table and starts dancing in the well of the senate floor.
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chanduv23
12-01 09:53 AM
One option for H4s could be to involve in organizations like Bill and Melinda Gates foundation or similar social service organizations. Well educated people can do wonders in social service. Everyone must do social service, it would be great if H4s can occupy themselves more into voluntary work etc...
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sledge_hammer
03-06 10:48 AM
There is an effor already is progress -
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=323744#post323744
BTW I am up for $25 if there is an agreement to go with this request.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=323744#post323744
BTW I am up for $25 if there is an agreement to go with this request.
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amitjoey
05-21 01:57 PM
Thanks Pagal, Optimist, Ezee, Krishmunn, Psvk, spicy_guy for your generous contributions.
Total is $3200
Total is $3200
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04-27 05:06 PM
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Tito_ortiz
02-13 10:37 AM
Guys, this is by far one of the best points ever made in this forum. This is actually our silver bullet. Open the eyes of people around the world that the US is not treating skilled immigrants right anymore. There are many countries out there which offer more career opportunities than here. By the way, what am I doing here?!
Pappu, I sent the article to my cousin in China, asking him to publish his story. Please read his reply. He graduated from University of Chicago and went back to China two years after working in US.
"This is another sad story about skilled immigrant.
I want to talk about this issue from my perspective.
I got my M.B.A in a prestigious US university and worked as a Financial Analyst in US for two years. I was thinking of applying for GC at that time because I had planned to stay in US. But, that winter, when I took a vacation in China, I decided to look for a job in China because I was very impressed by the economic development in China and wanted to capitalize on the opportunity. The Chinese market was/is in urgent demand for US-trained financial analyst. After some interviews, I got a very generous offer from a multinational company and quitted my job in US without any hesitation.
Now five years has passed. Because of my excellent performance, I get two promotions in the past five years and am a director in my company. My boss, who is an american, lost his job and has to go back to US because my company cannot see any fiancial advantage to hire him anymore. I have never been happier. I believe that I made a very good choice five years ago. Most of my chinese classmates during MBA study are still struggling for their GCs and get stuck in their career development because of GCs. They are quite regret that they did not come back to China back 5 years.
So what I want say is that, US is not a very good place to stay anymore. There are many golden opportunities in your own country! Many countries are becoming stronger and stronger. It's not 10 or 20 years ago. 10 or 20 years ago, US is the best place in the world to stay. But now, it's different. My friends in US make about $150k a year and cannot afford a luxury lifestyle. I make $100k a year and enjoy a very comfortable life in China. I built my own house in China, which is even better than my house in New Jersey before. I hired my own chauffeur, housekeeper, two nannies for my baby... I cannot afford these thing if I were still in US. How many americans can afford the same lifestyle as mine? I don't think there are many.
My point is, be open to opportunities in your own countries or other countries in the world other than US. You will be happy to leave US several years later when you look back. Besides, if more and more US-trained scientists and professionals come back to their own countries and help their countries to develop, maybe in another 10 or 20 years, no one would want GC anymore."
Pappu, I sent the article to my cousin in China, asking him to publish his story. Please read his reply. He graduated from University of Chicago and went back to China two years after working in US.
"This is another sad story about skilled immigrant.
I want to talk about this issue from my perspective.
I got my M.B.A in a prestigious US university and worked as a Financial Analyst in US for two years. I was thinking of applying for GC at that time because I had planned to stay in US. But, that winter, when I took a vacation in China, I decided to look for a job in China because I was very impressed by the economic development in China and wanted to capitalize on the opportunity. The Chinese market was/is in urgent demand for US-trained financial analyst. After some interviews, I got a very generous offer from a multinational company and quitted my job in US without any hesitation.
Now five years has passed. Because of my excellent performance, I get two promotions in the past five years and am a director in my company. My boss, who is an american, lost his job and has to go back to US because my company cannot see any fiancial advantage to hire him anymore. I have never been happier. I believe that I made a very good choice five years ago. Most of my chinese classmates during MBA study are still struggling for their GCs and get stuck in their career development because of GCs. They are quite regret that they did not come back to China back 5 years.
So what I want say is that, US is not a very good place to stay anymore. There are many golden opportunities in your own country! Many countries are becoming stronger and stronger. It's not 10 or 20 years ago. 10 or 20 years ago, US is the best place in the world to stay. But now, it's different. My friends in US make about $150k a year and cannot afford a luxury lifestyle. I make $100k a year and enjoy a very comfortable life in China. I built my own house in China, which is even better than my house in New Jersey before. I hired my own chauffeur, housekeeper, two nannies for my baby... I cannot afford these thing if I were still in US. How many americans can afford the same lifestyle as mine? I don't think there are many.
My point is, be open to opportunities in your own countries or other countries in the world other than US. You will be happy to leave US several years later when you look back. Besides, if more and more US-trained scientists and professionals come back to their own countries and help their countries to develop, maybe in another 10 or 20 years, no one would want GC anymore."
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anilsal
12-11 04:20 PM
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chanduv23
02-08 03:41 PM
Get copies of your 140 approval and labor filing papers. Look for a job and transfer h1b , you will get 3 years transfer/extension based on yiour approved 140.
Once you settle down in your new job, apply for new Labor in PERM (preferably EB2) , and you can port your earlier priority date.
Once you settle down in your new job, apply for new Labor in PERM (preferably EB2) , and you can port your earlier priority date.
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04-26 04:17 PM
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walking_dude
09-22 12:22 PM
My dear friend you don't understand a thing, and are poorly informed!
EB visas account for only 14% of total visas awarded. Those previous "hallowed" GCs you lament about, have been given to countless refugees, asylees, Family Based Immigrants , in countless Amnesties to illegals - way before we took to the streets. Your uncles and aunts weren't the only ones who got GCs back then, they shared it with a majority of others who didn't even pass highschool!
If you look at the current process, 50,000 GCs are given away in a lottery to any one who applies - no qualifications necessary ( so called "Diversity Visas"). A large number of GC applicants claim that they are too poor to pay the fees (asylees and refugees) and they get it gratis! Many get GCs for no reason other than their brother or sister is a US citizen ( in fact they out number us 3-to-1).
Regarding taking to the steets , if Gandhi hadn't taken to the streets you'd still see 'Dogs and Indians not allowed' signs all over India. If MLK hadn't taken inspiration from Gandhi and taken to the streets in USA, there would still be openly 'Whites Only' places here. If Nelson Mandela hadn't been inspired by Gandhi and taken to the streets, there would still be Apartheid in South Africa. Taking to the streets doesn't make one "cheap".
How do you say H1 person is unworthy, where as F1 is smart? A lot of smart F1s later transition into H1s smartly to continue here while waiting for their GCs. If your intent was to prove your "F1" smartness and superiority, you are not helping your cause, by making such ill-informed and frivolous statements!
A visa (or lack of it) doesn't make a person worthy or unworthy. He/she needs to be a good human being first, who understands the sacrifices made by others.
smartness + Good human being = worthy person
smartness + asinine attitude = SmartAss
What do you want to be? Choice is yours
I did not go to DC because i did not want to get the green card this way.I grew upwatching aunts,uncles coming from USA bearing gifts.I grew up watching cousins go for USA for higher studies.It used to be so special. Now its become so cheap. Now you guys have literally taken it to the streets. There's no difference between those illegal immigrants and us. This H1visa has ruined it for really smart students who come here on F1 with full scholarship.
This software industry and these cheap bodyshopping companies made it nothing more than a whore business.
My heart is broken. I dont care anymore.thats why i did not come to DC.
EB visas account for only 14% of total visas awarded. Those previous "hallowed" GCs you lament about, have been given to countless refugees, asylees, Family Based Immigrants , in countless Amnesties to illegals - way before we took to the streets. Your uncles and aunts weren't the only ones who got GCs back then, they shared it with a majority of others who didn't even pass highschool!
If you look at the current process, 50,000 GCs are given away in a lottery to any one who applies - no qualifications necessary ( so called "Diversity Visas"). A large number of GC applicants claim that they are too poor to pay the fees (asylees and refugees) and they get it gratis! Many get GCs for no reason other than their brother or sister is a US citizen ( in fact they out number us 3-to-1).
Regarding taking to the steets , if Gandhi hadn't taken to the streets you'd still see 'Dogs and Indians not allowed' signs all over India. If MLK hadn't taken inspiration from Gandhi and taken to the streets in USA, there would still be openly 'Whites Only' places here. If Nelson Mandela hadn't been inspired by Gandhi and taken to the streets, there would still be Apartheid in South Africa. Taking to the streets doesn't make one "cheap".
How do you say H1 person is unworthy, where as F1 is smart? A lot of smart F1s later transition into H1s smartly to continue here while waiting for their GCs. If your intent was to prove your "F1" smartness and superiority, you are not helping your cause, by making such ill-informed and frivolous statements!
A visa (or lack of it) doesn't make a person worthy or unworthy. He/she needs to be a good human being first, who understands the sacrifices made by others.
smartness + Good human being = worthy person
smartness + asinine attitude = SmartAss
What do you want to be? Choice is yours
I did not go to DC because i did not want to get the green card this way.I grew upwatching aunts,uncles coming from USA bearing gifts.I grew up watching cousins go for USA for higher studies.It used to be so special. Now its become so cheap. Now you guys have literally taken it to the streets. There's no difference between those illegal immigrants and us. This H1visa has ruined it for really smart students who come here on F1 with full scholarship.
This software industry and these cheap bodyshopping companies made it nothing more than a whore business.
My heart is broken. I dont care anymore.thats why i did not come to DC.
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bongopondit
06-13 09:37 PM
Remember that you have to be in the country to apply for I-485.
IV Core Team
Is this true for Consular Processing applications as well ? I thought CPs are filed at the local US consulate (Mumbai in our case). Additionally, I have a question about I-485 - CP filing and retrogression. Once we file the 485, does the CP get stuck in case there is retrogression in a few months time or is it that once we have applied the process keeps going ? Thanks in advance for the information.
IV Core Team
Is this true for Consular Processing applications as well ? I thought CPs are filed at the local US consulate (Mumbai in our case). Additionally, I have a question about I-485 - CP filing and retrogression. Once we file the 485, does the CP get stuck in case there is retrogression in a few months time or is it that once we have applied the process keeps going ? Thanks in advance for the information.
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rimzhim
02-12 11:30 AM
I agree with a_yaja,
We all came from H1B root. We pass that barrier and want to shut gate!!
This is not fare. Remember, when some people have opposed I 485 filling provision in Feb 15, many of our members hammered them with selfish label !
How come we suggest to stop H1B?
It should not be shut down, I agree, we came here on H1B. But the number of H1B allowed per yr should not exceed the number of GCs given every yr. that i think is what go_go_guy was saying.
We all came from H1B root. We pass that barrier and want to shut gate!!
This is not fare. Remember, when some people have opposed I 485 filling provision in Feb 15, many of our members hammered them with selfish label !
How come we suggest to stop H1B?
It should not be shut down, I agree, we came here on H1B. But the number of H1B allowed per yr should not exceed the number of GCs given every yr. that i think is what go_go_guy was saying.
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whattodo
05-09 12:25 PM
Even I was interested in similar scenario.
1. What happens when changing employers when I-140 and I-485 pending for less than 180 days?
2. From my understanding, the process needs to restart. However, do I have to do something to withdraw pending I-485.
3. Will it be termed as denied I-485 and create problems if I apply new I-485 with new employer?
Any response will be appreciated.
I have a pending I-140 since July 2006. Today i lost my sponsor employer and don't know what to do. Can I switch my pending I-140 to another employer? What can i do NOT to lose status? I still have a valid H1B till Augist 2008 but I have travelled on my Advance Parole. Does that mean that my H1B is terminated? Please advise. Thank you.
1. What happens when changing employers when I-140 and I-485 pending for less than 180 days?
2. From my understanding, the process needs to restart. However, do I have to do something to withdraw pending I-485.
3. Will it be termed as denied I-485 and create problems if I apply new I-485 with new employer?
Any response will be appreciated.
I have a pending I-140 since July 2006. Today i lost my sponsor employer and don't know what to do. Can I switch my pending I-140 to another employer? What can i do NOT to lose status? I still have a valid H1B till Augist 2008 but I have travelled on my Advance Parole. Does that mean that my H1B is terminated? Please advise. Thank you.
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av2004
05-25 09:26 AM
Dear all,
Please assist IV in this important initiative to bring DC's attention to our issues such as processing delays and delays due to retrogression. Who knows what will happen in future about immigration.. I just read that the senate is planning to come up with a commission that will control the legal immigrant limits...
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/23/AR2010052304034.html)
It is all the more important to meet and let the senators know what we are going through so that they may think properly for the future.
I have already contributed a humble $50 for this advocacy initiative and will contribute again in first week of June. Please do your part in helping IV and in turn, yourselves.
Regards,
av2004
Please assist IV in this important initiative to bring DC's attention to our issues such as processing delays and delays due to retrogression. Who knows what will happen in future about immigration.. I just read that the senate is planning to come up with a commission that will control the legal immigrant limits...
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/23/AR2010052304034.html)
It is all the more important to meet and let the senators know what we are going through so that they may think properly for the future.
I have already contributed a humble $50 for this advocacy initiative and will contribute again in first week of June. Please do your part in helping IV and in turn, yourselves.
Regards,
av2004
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pcs
07-06 09:02 AM
I had FREE company attorney but decided to file 485 etc. myself & it was so much better. You can easily do 140-485 etc yourself. Call me & I will tell you.
If at all use an attorney for PERM. In my situation, even that was screwed up & I had to do that myself.
It is high time, all of us capable of handling complex viral equations, do this simple job , spread the knowledge , save $$$ & contribute some savings to IV
Best wishes
If at all use an attorney for PERM. In my situation, even that was screwed up & I had to do that myself.
It is high time, all of us capable of handling complex viral equations, do this simple job , spread the knowledge , save $$$ & contribute some savings to IV
Best wishes
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rimzhim
02-12 11:30 AM
I agree with a_yaja,
We all came from H1B root. We pass that barrier and want to shut gate!!
This is not fare. Remember, when some people have opposed I 485 filling provision in Feb 15, many of our members hammered them with selfish label !
How come we suggest to stop H1B?
It should not be shut down, I agree, we came here on H1B. But the number of H1B allowed per yr should not exceed the number of GCs given every yr. that i think is what go_go_guy was saying.
We all came from H1B root. We pass that barrier and want to shut gate!!
This is not fare. Remember, when some people have opposed I 485 filling provision in Feb 15, many of our members hammered them with selfish label !
How come we suggest to stop H1B?
It should not be shut down, I agree, we came here on H1B. But the number of H1B allowed per yr should not exceed the number of GCs given every yr. that i think is what go_go_guy was saying.
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PlainSpeak
03-28 08:19 PM
I recommend you apologize to MC and don't make this a circus
Not sure what you mean here. MC is not angry at me, If anything he is angry at snathan :D
Also i admire you digging through my old emails to get that nugget of information out but you wasted your time going through the old posts unless it has opened your minds at last but wait !!!!! what am i thinking. You belong to the 2 gang !!!!
Also the reason for the . is very simple. I was using it to test whether my post was still being blocked by IV or not. ironic huh :)
thats pretty ridiculous, why don't you prove it
Now i don't need to prove anything. You have done that by your reply.
Garv Se Bolo Legal Immigrant
Garv Se Bolo Regular (Not Highly) educated Skilled applicant for GC
Garv Se Bolo EB3 I
Not sure what you mean here. MC is not angry at me, If anything he is angry at snathan :D
Also i admire you digging through my old emails to get that nugget of information out but you wasted your time going through the old posts unless it has opened your minds at last but wait !!!!! what am i thinking. You belong to the 2 gang !!!!
Also the reason for the . is very simple. I was using it to test whether my post was still being blocked by IV or not. ironic huh :)
thats pretty ridiculous, why don't you prove it
Now i don't need to prove anything. You have done that by your reply.
Garv Se Bolo Legal Immigrant
Garv Se Bolo Regular (Not Highly) educated Skilled applicant for GC
Garv Se Bolo EB3 I
days_go_by
07-18 11:45 AM
Anybody thinking of this ...........
I know there is a whole lot of people asking if they can do a Executive MBA or Masters and qualify for the US Masters exemption. My question is, what about someone who started and did his Masters in his field of labor application from a accredited university, after applying for EB3 labor, and now has labor and 140 approved but waiting for PD, will this person also qualify for US Masters, or will he have to start a new labor application based on the masters degree ?
Gurus, please answer.
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I think MS quota is for 485, so you should be exempt, but I don't think anyone knows for sure at this time.
I know there is a whole lot of people asking if they can do a Executive MBA or Masters and qualify for the US Masters exemption. My question is, what about someone who started and did his Masters in his field of labor application from a accredited university, after applying for EB3 labor, and now has labor and 140 approved but waiting for PD, will this person also qualify for US Masters, or will he have to start a new labor application based on the masters degree ?
Gurus, please answer.
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I think MS quota is for 485, so you should be exempt, but I don't think anyone knows for sure at this time.
TheMaverick
06-24 12:48 PM
Got transferred to the Judiciary sub-committee and talked to someone who said that she'll pass the message along. Didn't mention that she was getting a lot of calls.
So people please call if you haven't yet.
So people please call if you haven't yet.
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