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  • QuestGC
    01-06 01:19 PM
    Here is one more on NPR.org

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9910492
    http://www.cggc.duke.edu/pdfs/051606_Testimony_of_Vivek_Wadhwa.pdf

    The key is "Cost" That is what is driving to India and nothing else... according to Vivek Wadhwa :)
    That also is towards fag end in my view because of weak dollar and macro economic conditions...

    For gods sake, lets not put any country/individual down, but take everything with a pinch of salt.
    Each one is capable of getting the job done for which one is born provided he/she works to his potential.




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  • meridiani.planum
    02-23 11:45 PM
    Progress of PDs are similar the ones which happened prior to June 2007. May be there is a chance of repeating that now......

    http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Past_Visa_Bulletin_Data

    interesting data. thanks to whoever put it up.

    So if the pattern of last 2 years also holds this year, there will be slow month or 2 month movement until the last quarter (july/aug/sept) and then boom-bada-boom massive movement of maybe a couple of years. In that last quarter its all hit or miss, some 20-30% of people who get current will get GC (like what happened last year) then again back to 1 year of creep and crawl... hopefully by then we get some form of immigration legislation to clear this backlog.




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  • SkilledWorker4GC
    07-15 10:19 AM
    Sent a contribution worth lunch money for a week.

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    New Day today.

    Good morning everyone. Let's get back to making this campaign a roaring success. We need new High Fives today people. All those IV brothers and sisters who havent yet contributed their $5.00, please do so. It is a great cause and lets face it, IV is the ONLY organization of the legal immigrants, by the legal immigrants, AND FOR the legal immigrants ONLY.

    Also let us remember to update our signatures and include a link to this thread.




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  • susie
    07-15 12:12 PM
    I thought about posting my case details and now the complaint has been filed feel it is only fair to share with others as my case could set a presidence for others


    I will keep story as points for ease


    1. Husband moved to the USA in 1998 on L 1 inter company transfer

    2. In 2000 company applied for I 140 for husband and approved May 2001

    3. Within one year of I 140 approval, husband submitted I 485 for himself and youngest son. At the same time filed I 824 for son who was living abroad and was to follow to join once degree was finished. per I 485 instructions which still state to follow this procedure if minor child abroad.

    4. Son abroad became 21 years in April 2002 and also subject to patriot act.
    His I 824 was pending at enactment of CSPA.

    5. In Oct 2002 we received a denial letter for 1st I 824, this letter did not say "aged out" just said re submit new I 824 once husband received his green card (so no final determination )

    6. May 2004 submitted new I 824 for son abroad, this was approved Aug 2004

    7. As no news from consulate by Jan 2005, sought assistance from Congressman Weldon. Eventually in Oct 2005 (via e-mail) The American embassy in London advised congressman my son aged out

    8. After many consultations with different attorneys, who all said son was protected under cspa, started to get file together to file complaint.

    9. Had difficulty finding attorney who understood the cspa well enough or willing to challenge.

    10, In early 2006 husband became unwell and passed within a matter of a few weeks


    As husband (the petitioner ) passed away I thought all hope was lost. Thanks to reporters printing my story an attorney came forward and offered assistance. All assets were frozen but the attorney kindly took case on a pro- bono

    The complaint was filed March 2007, on the basis the first I 824 was denied in error.

    The cspa is not retroactive as a rule and son is covered under limited exception as I 824 was filed before he was 21 years and pending at enactment of cspa.

    There has recently been a new cspa court case that has approved a retroactive case, so there is hope for us all



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  • chanduv23
    09-12 01:35 PM
    I dont mind getting Red Dots, But please, for god's sake. Stop doing this fruitless campaign. Do you guys think Giving a Clock or sending flowers solved earlier problems. Enough of this Gandhiian ways. This country is not good for people like Gandhi. May be Flower campaign got noticed and created a whole new experience for the USCIS, but i dont think it really helped them do anything in our favor. Already, folks here are wasting their money, year after year, on their EADs and APs for them and their family. Just think for a second guys, It costs us 1000 $ to maintain status on AOS and visit our family and this is going on indefinitely for our years now. USCIS/Congress does not want to do anything about this, They are happy to get the revenue. Even if you think a minimum of 200,000 people spending 1000 $ an year, it is 200,000,000 $. Iam not even considering the amount they spent on other things like H1B extension, H4s..... Just think about the Dollars they are making on this Green Card SCAM. Accept it or not, it is indirectly affecting our lives, even though, GC is not really important for lot of folks. Iam one such person, I have a good client and a decent employer and iam with the same folks for 9 years and they are happy extending my H1b at their cost. But still, this whole GC game, is sometimes disturbing. They are playing with our emotions and our loved ones. So, GUYS we need to take a bigger and bolder step. To me, Calling people, sending flowers and letters explaining the situation makes no sense. Do you think, those guys dont really know about our situation. Let us a make a bold move. We are 70,000 folks just here in ImmigrationVoice. Let us compile a letter,that pushes USCIS/Congress on improving the condition. As long as they get those EXTRA Dollars, i dont think anything is going to happen. Even if they remove the provision to apply for GC while on H1B, it is good for us, for we will know that in advance and can plan on shaping our future better, instead of this false promise and emotional torture. I think even AILA or other Lawyers are useless. They dont want to do anything for us. All they do is, interpret the LAW , and explain us in the way we can understand. They dont take steps to fight for the justice. All they care is the money. So let us make our point clear to USCIS, we dont want to waste money on EADs and APs and H1B extensions. To me, it should be free of cost, since it is their problem that they dont work efficiently. Why should we pay 1000s of dollars for their inefficiency. let us all 70,000 work together in sending a letter to USCIS or Congress that We are not willing to spend any more money on the GC knowing that we are not going to get it anyway. Unless, we do something like this, the real impact of our situation will never get noticed. Again, our main aim should be to let them know about our situation and not just that IV is a group that will send flowers, to express its presence.

    To do what you suggest, we have to organize ourselves first. Opening threads and debating and then burying them deep does not help. If we have 30K IV members + 40 K families and friends 70K letters will definitely make a difference.
    Thats why I say, lets organize ourselves - andthe first step is to "pledge commitment for the cause" followed by coming out of anonymity - followed by actively participating in grassroots efforts by working through state chapters




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  • GotGC??
    01-03 03:05 PM
    This thread is long time coming, and thank you for starting this. This is a question often discussed in friend circles, but most people I know hesitate to take a position. I think the anonymity of this forum will let us express ourselves more honestly...

    When I came to the US 6 years ago, I had deliberately made the decision not to decide in the first couple of years about staying on or returning back after sometime. I had seen too many friends and relatives who all said "don't worry, we'll back in a couple of years" and never made it back. Marriage, kids, school, house, GC...Citizenship...it kinds of gets on you. And before you know, your kids are making the decision for you. I know of a couple of families with grown up kids who moved back to India only to move back to US because the "kids could not adjust". It's not hard to read between the lines that "we also could not adjust".

    As days go by, it is becoming more clear everyday that I will also return back one day, sooner rather than later. I have some questions that haunt me:
    - if/when I get my GC, and if I return back, is there a way to hold on to the GC status?
    - if someone has a US citizenship, when companies such as Infosys hire them, do they have to get a work visa or something? Is there a concept equivalent of H1/GC for non Indians yet?



    When my son was in 3rd grade, he was asked a question ...who were the pilgrims from your family. I told him it was his parents.

    I presume just like the first pilgrims in USA had a lot of struggle, similarly we too are in the same boat....a time will come when we all will get our GC's....however the true beneficiary of the GC will be our children and our benefit will come by seeing our children getting that benefit. However, we all seem to be living better off than the 1st pilgrims...we are living more comfortably, driving good cars and have homes, enjoying the US dream to some extant....Even now if you go to your home country...you are considered a wealthy guy.....even if you have less money in your bank than your counterparts in India or other places...this is due to the standard of living in USA is expensive.

    With the global economy and Infosys hiring US Citizens, I am not sure where where the job market is going, but I feel for the next 50-60 years US is still the place to live, since it has a very strong economy. With that perspective I believe a little struggle is acceptable.....

    GC is out there for all of us...keep the hope alive...



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  • Macaca
    10-01 04:07 PM
    If the USCSI didnt have enough applications to be assigned the VISA , then why are they so conservative in making the cutoff dates move ahead. What is the harm in pro-actively moving the cutiff dates, to amek sure no visa gets wasted.
    A cut-off date avoids submission of AOS applications with PD after cut-off date. In my opinion, this was the only reason to retrogress on July 2: avoid AOS submission whose PDs became current in July.

    Now nearly all AOS applications have been submitted. Hence, setting cut-off dates conservatively is not that motivating.




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  • 485Question
    09-08 11:43 AM
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  • funny
    09-12 04:09 PM
    Whats the plan guys...any thing agreed upon....^Bumping Again^




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  • vayumahesh
    02-04 08:35 AM
    For AllvNeedGcPc,

    Do I need to do anything to get it moving? How do I put a Service Request on 485? The online system to put an eRequest only lets you do it for N400 or I90.

    It does not hurt to send a interfiling request letter from your attorney. You can raise a Service request (via phone) if it is outside of normal processing time (30 days past after being current).

    :) Got greened on Jan 4th, 2011 (Refiled in EB2 and ported PD from EB3)



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  • mirage
    03-31 04:17 PM
    I think we are getting into an unnecessary discussion. My objective of this thread was to point out to our members that when we are discussing about immigration issues in the media we should also expose the mismanagement of the USCIS. They should not get away just by saying we were not prepared for this....




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    09-14 12:59 PM
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  • TeddyKoochu
    09-07 11:39 AM
    I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.

    This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:

    - They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.

    - Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.

    - Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.

    - People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.

    - Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.

    - If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.

    - Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.

    Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.

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    Pappu excellent post full of true facts. Being smart in my opinion means being knowledgeable and aware of the current situation at any given point of time rather than being ignorant and indifferent. Most of the time doing some basic research can lead an individual to the right option that is legally consistent and correct, it’s really never too late to correct course. Yes there will be street smart people (Sub labor being one example) who will game the system but besides other things let’s accept that they know how things work. Life is about learning and then What Next? It’s really about continuous improvement and trying to move in the right direction. Not having the desired end result is fine but not doing anything or not trying is bad. Very nice and motivating stories from some of the veteran’s you give us the motivation to hang on. OP you seem to have started a nice discussion.




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  • anyluck?
    12-10 07:00 PM
    Repenting that i miised the chance, and should have applied at that time.



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  • vactorboy29
    07-20 11:14 PM
    Check this web site and do ur calculations;


    http://www.dhs.gov/xabout/structure/gc_1183751418157.shtm

    Thanks,
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  • badluck
    07-06 01:05 PM
    Thats what he is saying.. he is an expensive lawyer...

    and about crap---who the hell are you to decide... if you dont like then just ignore the post...



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  • vin13
    02-23 01:55 PM
    Processing dates for 485 seems to have greatly improved at NSC. Hopefully now they start issueing based on the priority date.




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  • thomachan72
    12-15 01:02 PM
    Excellent idea Michael Chertoff but let us wait till the nest summer:D:D

    Next summer.




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  • billu
    02-27 07:30 PM
    is there any hope for bridge legislation in '08?....or this year will pass by due to the elections?......is there any realistic chance of bridge amenment ever being passed?....i am starting to lose hope now......




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    pitha
    07-06 05:23 PM
    thats why aila lawsuit is important, if they can bend the rules for consular processing and a lot of other mischief for eating up 60k visas then they can bend there rules for giving us EAD as well when bulletin is revised.

    See what I was saying. They are not supposed to grant CP appointments and approvals in July per the regulations. They have decided to bend the rules to approve the currently pending 485s and CPs. They came up with this lame excuse that since the visas were already shipped out to the consular posts ................yada yada. Point is as I said they can't do 18K CP applicatrions in a day at the consulates the way they seem to have done for the 485s. Even this I am not sure.
    I doubt whether they have sent out all 60K 485 approvals either, they probably will in the course of the next month or thereabouts.
    I'll say it again, they want 485s out but they don't want them in for whatever reason. It is getting clearer.



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