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  • hydboy77
    02-14 06:03 PM
    I hear some people saying childish things like hijacking this thread if anybody says anything different from what they say. What do you prefer, should I open another thread with title "oppose prefiling AOS", nobody wins neither will I or you when somebody does that. Please tolerate others views then they will tolerate yours.

    Without strengthening AC21 if you allow everyone to file AOS then anti eb folks like Grassley, Sanders, Sessions, Durbin will move from targeting H1b to targeting EAD. It takes 6 months to get Perm approval, with pre filing AOS everyone can get EAD in 6 months, anti eb folks and USCIS know that people will be jumping to EAD to escape H1 crackdown, what do you think they will do, they will add amendments and Bills to put restrictions on hiring EAD just like they put restrictions on hiring H1b. We cannot make EAD into another H1b like hell.

    Prefiling should be done to give relief to people who missed July fiasco only after
    1. Remove\dilute same similar job requirement
    2. Make sure EAD is extended without any rfe. USCIS will invent thousand things to issue rfe, EAD should be in a different league to h1 and it should not turn into another h1 where you are slapped with rfe left right and center. Example Pay stub rfe, ability to pay rfe, customer Purchase order RFE etc etc etc, Green card holders don’t have any problem working in these same jobs so why should EAD people face this nonsense (otherwise it is just like h1). Before people complain this will become like a green card, lets me answer in advance, if a person from ROW can get his green card within 12 months of coming to US, why cannot people from India\china who have worked in US for the last 5 to 10 years get the above mentioned relief on EAD. EAD should be superior to h1.the only restriction should be you should work in the same field, i.e. if your labor certification is for Software engineer, programmer analyst etc , then you work in a software related job and cannot become a greeter in walmart :-)

    Without strengthening EAD\AC21 with the above mentioned items you are turning EAD into just another h1.If we push for prefiling AOS without strengthening Ac21 it is a big disadvantage and slap on the face for all the people with older priority date. Because of July fiasco when everybody got current and filed for AOS, USCIS issued GC to people from 2006 leaving behind people from 2003, 04 and 05. USCIS should have gradually moved the dates from 2003 to 04 to 05 that way people with older PD would have got it first. With prefiling AOS it will become a lottery like in August 2008 where 2006 PD got GC over 03,04 and 05 in eb2. Safeguards have to be put in place for order of priority date otherwise USCIS will indulge in this lottery mode and excuse there behavior by claiming they did this to save visa wastage.




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  • LostInGCProcess
    08-21 09:03 PM
    Are they asking for $20 money order or a stamped envelope again? I won't be surprised if these people are pocketing the extra money.

    She gave the choice to either send $20.00 MO or send an stamped envelope. I am contemplating on sending the $20.00 MO. Because I don't want them to tell me again that I have not sent the envelope, should I send one.




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  • pd_recapturing
    02-09 09:52 PM
    If you read my post carefully, I am suggesting this 'in addition' to what's already on IV's agenda. Why can't we work on this item in conjunction to what's already being worked on? I have started preparing a fraud list from a bunch of websites like desicrunch.com. I noticed that almost 90% of firms reported there are fraud firms and it makes me wonder about the efficiency of local authorities. Also I don't see how targeting blood sucking desi firms would feed the anti-immigrant trolls. I would think we Indians would benefit the most since it would increase our credibility in general. Thanks for considering this idea at least. I would like to know other people's thoughts based on my clarification here. This drive might clean up cases freeing up visa numbers for genuine EB cases from India. Why should I be in line with crooks ahead of me? It doesn't make sense whatsoever.

    And yes, my contribution to IV so far as been $1000 and involvement in other drives. Your question to me regarding my contribution made me squirm a bit since you might have categorized me with many of IV's freeloaders. That's just like Americans asking me all the time "Are you on an H1-B visa and do you work for a bodyshopper". :)
    But I will work on making new contributions as well.

    Contribution so far: $1000
    StuckinMuck, I really appreciate your concern but my question to you is are you targeting the desi fraud companies or fraud employees? How would one decide as to which companies/employees are fraud? Suppose, you target a company because its fraud but there might be a huge possibility that some of the employees are genuine and they would suffer just because their employer is fraud. How would you avoid that?




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  • dish
    03-16 01:05 PM
    There is a site called http://www.hvisasurvey.org which conducts surveys about the lives of poeple on different H Visas. They were lobbying for H4 work authorization and protection under VAWA for non-immigrant woman.

    I have a suggestion. Why not ImmigrationVoice Join with HVisaSurvey and Lobby for more rights for H4 Visa Holders.

    At least the H4 should be allowed to work if the labor certification is pending or the I-140 is approved for the H1 visa holder. Waiting for I-485 to become current is a long wait. Why nobody care about H4s. L2's got work permit because the big multinational companies who used a lot of L1 visas lobbied for it.



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  • akashya
    05-19 04:51 PM
    Yes. But send only once a day so that it is not considered spam.

    Done for VA.

    But all the replies from Lawmakers that I am reading have nothing to say about Legal Immigration.....they have a standard reply......secure border,illegal immigrants,american jobs.....nothing about our issue.




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  • rimzhim
    02-13 08:48 AM
    IV core needs to develop a thick skin, and not be affected by barking dogs like these.

    I'm all for IV!! This is the only organization fighting on behalf of those stuck in GC retrogression. There are some anti-immigrants who come to this website, sign up under Indian identities, and try their darnest best to bog down the efforts....
    I agree. The message from this "anand" does sound like that from an anti-immigrant.



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  • walking_dude
    10-08 12:03 PM
    As far as IV core/leadership is concerned, IV has standard "Talking Points" which were given to volunteers for "Meet the law-makers" event during DC Rally. Also there is a decent FAQ and guide on Lawmaker meetings. You can try to arrange a weekend conference call with IV core ( paskal or pappu) too. Chintu25 (sam) has experience in this matter (he setup the last call)

    Here's something from my end, to get the discussion started so that we have some concrete agenda for 10/20. It would also help participants to come ready with their ideas. It's also something we can do from our end, instead of waiting for leadership to come to our rescue!

    1) Introductions - each member introduces himself/herself briefly, describes his/her GC journey, his/her concerns, expectations from IV and what could make them active participants in the grassroots movements, how can they contribute to IV in membership drive, meet the press, meet the lawmakers, funding etc.

    Idea is to comeup with a SWAT anaylis. Identify our collective strengths, challenges and areas for improvement.

    Here are somethings that can be planned

    a) If someone has good media contacts, he/she can setup meetings with news reporter, others with compelling stories like 6-7 years wait after applying GC, children aging out etc. can volunteer to talk on behalf of IV.

    b) If someone has contact with Senators, Congressmen etc. they can be pivotal in setting up meetings. A person with strong communication skills and marketing skills can volunteer to present the facts and sell our case in the meetings. It's very important that whoever presents our case does it effectively as our case needs a hardsell

    c) Guys who volunteer/have contacts at temples, mosques, churches, gurudwaras, schools, colleges, libraries etc. can pull strings to get us space in the announcement boards. Others can print out the material and actually go and post those flyers at the designated places.

    .... and so on. By sharing work we can share the burden and achieve more than what's possible acting individually. It's important that we know each other to comeup with such ideas for collaboration

    2) Publicity Campaign/Membership Drive - I need not stress the importance of these. Here's something we need to do at the meetings

    a) Divide the areas between members. This will avoid duplication, redundancy [ two members posting at the same grocery store etc.].

    Somebody please get a MI map! We will mark area for each member to cover. We will know which areas are well-served and under-served. Volunteers from Well-served areas can adopt some of the nearby under-served areas. Or we call give a holler here say - " we need someone from Armada"

    b) Set concrete weekly/monthly targets for each member like I will do 5 groceries which are ABC,XYZ, ... next weekend. As each volunteer meets the target, he/she reports to the publicity campaign co-ordinator (yes, we need a co-ordinator too!). Data is compiled and presented month-end ( yahoo groups, teleconferencing) so we know if we met our self-targets - how much's done, how much remains to be done, why some targets were missed, lessons learnt, how to avoid next time etc.

    3) Real Grassroots campaign - Lawmaker meetings need not only target Congressmen/women. Remember, the letter Gov. Schwarnegger and 13 others wrote to US Congress? Governors and local politicians can influence too.

    We can target local politicians - state senators, Governor etc. We can try to persuade them to write letters to Congressmen/women supporting our cause. Congressmen/women do depend on these local politicians to win the elections. If they write letters it will carry more wait than our letters, they also may be easier to persuade with our contacts than top-tier politicians like Senators. Instead of concentrating at the top, we can try the 'bottom up' approach in-addition to 'Meet Congressmen' campaigns.

    Some plans can be drawnup during the meeting. Again we need to set targets, monitor and analyze progress, come up with corrective action etc.


    4) Funding Drive - Show me the money :)

    We'll need to come out with a Contribution/Financial plan.

    a) How each one of us contributing/plans to contribute to IV annually? We need to tally the figures to come up with State-level contributions which should be communicated with the IV core.

    b) Financial targets/commitments need to be setup at IV national and state chaper levels. We cannot totally depend on IV core to run ads in local papers for e.g. If it takes $1000 for e.g. it may not be possible for one or two persons (the so-called leaders) to bear the whole burden, however if we can share it like $100 x 10 or $50 x 20 it help further our cause. TRANSPARENCY at local-level is a must to gain members confidence. So we need to budget, execute, spend and report the spending ( amongst contributors only, others please excuse)

    c) It will also help setup the level-of-support that the State chapter, IV core can provide to members. In case help at USCIS HQ level, Ombudsman-level etc. are needed in his/her case a non-contributing member cannot expect the same service as a member contributing his/her mite to the campaigns.

    The contributions need not only be financial. If someone's unable to contribute significantly financially, they should make it up by volunteering for other activity.

    5) Identify the local Leadership Team - Since we are all volunteers here with full-time jobs, it's impossible for one person to handle the co-ordination, monitoring, reporting (to members and core) activities. A leadership team needs to be identified to share the burden.

    Leaders need to understand that they are the public face of IV in Michigan. It's expected they take a lead in all local activities, and will be speaking to media, co-ordinating between IV core and chapter members. They need to be open to phone calls, and in a position to answer member queries on a timely fashion (otherwise members will lose faith in the local chapter and the movement will die)

    Leadership team will publish a monthly action plan, targets, results of last month etc. complementing with IV national-level action items and plans.

    6) Localized talking points to Senators - Since our Democratic Senators keep countering our cause with issues such as Workers (read American Workers protection) and Amnesty, we need to come up with solutions based on previous experience.

    In addition to IV talking points, we can also talk about -

    1) Protecting Workers by removing job-restrictions on Employer, Job-level, salary-level etc. to GC applicants. How this will help American workers too.

    2) Impact of GC applicants immigrating to Windsor (Canada) on Michigan economy. Loss of state taxes, losses to grocery stores, electronic stores causing loss of jobs etc.

    3) Michigan is facing a labor-crisis as most young people in MI are moving to greener pastures in search of better opportunities. This has resulted in jobs moving out of Michigan, reluctance of new businesses to enter MI etc. due to non-availabilty of local resources ( We can show some press reports to prove our point)

    Only way to counter labor-attrition is to attract and retain Immigrant workers. Immigrant workers will only relocate and work in MI, if MI is perceived as an Immigrant-friendly state. Senators office can take the lead in positioning MI as an attractive destination for Immigrant labor. If successful this campaign can reverse job loss and reinvigorate Michigan economy.
    I've posted my ideas to get the discussion started. Others, please share your ideas too.


    ....

    Now lets start on the game plan.

    We would need some help from our leaders here..... what are the crucial topics that shall be discussed, and who are the people in state that we should target?

    I think, calling our senetors and possibly arranging a meeting with them would be on our top of the list. But lets meet and discuss first to decide what points shall be covered, and what shall be avoided....etc...




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  • spicy_guy
    05-29 05:42 PM
    Posted it to mmilist.
    Please post it in other forums too.



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  • HariDod
    07-27 02:02 PM
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    I recieved my I-140 receipt notice finally from Nebraska Service Center, it does not have the A#, may be due to the fact that I belong to EB3 category.

    As one of my friend who is in EB2 category has an A# on his receipt notice which he got yesterday from Texas Service Center.




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  • snathan
    03-20 09:44 PM
    To answer your question Yes nuthing gets transfered. Every time its a new h1b there is no transfer of anything. You can have 2 or more valid approved petition from different employers but you can use only one at a time.

    Pay - They are liable and USCIS can question them. All they will have to do is show that this employee (OP) was no show never joined the company so basically agree with you here.

    I was also under the same assumption. But I came to know that you can work for more than one sponsoring employer at a time.



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  • vdlrao
    07-14 11:04 AM
    EB2 dates may be unavailable/ dont move. But it is just for a very short span of time. And after that EB2 dates start moving quickly again. I presume by 2009 october, the EB2 India PD will close to 2008. Any retrogression, if ther is, in EB2 will be very mild from now on because of the spillovers.

    Regarding EB3: Every year there had been about 100k approvals in EB3 category, out of around 160K(even though there are 140k visas, there have been approving more because they are using unused family visa numbers) approvals in Employment Based Category. This is because of vertical fall outs of visa numbers. Now they have changed the scenario to horizontal fall outs (spreading across at the same category level( ex. EB2) irrespective of country of chargeability.). So this time it would be around 100K approvals in EB2 category.

    Let us make as much noice as we could because of EB3 retrogression. That doesnt effect EB2 movement. But may make it possible visa numbers increase for EB category by legislation. So we have to support this agitation made by our EB3 friends.


    I could seee all the EB3 folks with PD older than 2006 and EB2 folks with PD older than 2008 will be cleared off in the next two years. I am sure there wont be not more than 1 or 2 years delay between EB2 and EB3 categories in near future.And there are lot of things going to happen for employment based immigratin in the next two years.




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  • chintu25
    12-10 10:42 AM
    �You are a coward when you even seem to have backed down from a thing you openly set out to do�
    Mark Twain



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  • svam77
    07-21 10:00 PM
    yea it is written but not in the secion of initial evidence ....




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  • raju123
    07-03 03:31 PM
    Don't waste time by calling National Call service center. They all are dumb !! They don't know anything. They just read the on line status of our case, which 8 year kid can do.


    According to the first guy I talked to, one has already been assigned upon the start of processing of the case.

    I just called again and the lady was completely clueless about the whole July 2 fiasco. I will try again in another hour and hopefully I won't get the village idiot again.

    For anyone interested in calling themselves here is the info: 1-800-375-5283 options 1, 2, 3 (and possibly 6 after that-I can't remember).



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  • kshitijnt
    06-14 02:35 AM
    Good news after 2 bad years :) Just adding my 2C. Thanks IV!




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  • Hermione
    09-26 12:34 PM
    rennieallen, the total number of green cards issued in 2006 was 1.2M, total population of the US is around 300M. Now could you please explain to me, how additional 10-20K green cards a year that will go to Inians as opposed to ROW will have any impact on the "pot"?



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  • delhiguy79
    07-18 12:19 PM
    I also think that the NSC Service Center update issued on November 20th, 2006 is not still valid. ( To file 485 without i 140 receipt notice)

    Actually NSC was very slow in processing receipt notices during that time and hence the update was issued.

    But now, the maximum time to send out a receipt notice is 15 days. So I am not sure if we can rely on that update.

    Did u find anywhere that this NSC update is invalid, if yes please provide more info.




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  • andy garcia
    11-28 09:33 AM
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    I bet they have only issued around 120,000 EB visas in the year 2006 (Oct 2005 - Sept 2006), even though the quota is around 250,000. (140,000 direct + 100,000 from family other category).

    TheLPR flow for EB was 159,081 in 2006.
    Employment Preference Limit
    The annual limit is equal to 140,000 plus unused FS preferences in the previous FY. There were 3,949 unused FS preferences in 2005. The 2006 EB limit was 143,949 (140,000 plus 3,949). The REAL ID Act of 2005 recaptured 50,000 unused EB visas, 5,125 of which were used in 2005. In 2006, 33,341 of these visas were used, exceeding the 2006 limit.




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  • ashutrip
    06-14 08:56 AM
    can somebody please tell me how long does it take to labor clear under PERM...Mine was applied on March 21st 2007?
    & where can I Find A Sample of Non-Availibility of Birth certficate from the Muncipality




    speddi
    06-25 02:32 PM
    I called today and I will ask my wife adn friends to call too.




    psaxena
    09-30 02:10 PM
    Is this a serious discussion on the immigration portal about airlines.

    Why don't you shut the fuck up!!@#@# and get on with your "SERIOUS DISCUSSION" about AI, Vonage,Lingo, Shahrukh Khan etc etc etc..

    Serious!! yeah damn serious to be on this forum... guy like you are a shame and disgrace to the whole community where they just can't contribute but yes can definitely try to distract, deviate and derail the efforts.

    You got all this bashing for the reason, I dun consider this conversation as "SERIOUS" and was trying to add up humor to lighten up the thread. But the A**H***E like you and other 2( who gave you the green on the comment) are totally stupids to understand on where to discuss what.

    I am proud donor of IV, if that makes you feel ashamed when you look at the mirror, then I can't help you.



    Guys like you are a disgrace.
    When a serious discussion is going on, do you really have to post??
    Just shut up and donate to IV by selling your jet!



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